London Tube bombing conspiracy theories

Topic split: Remembering the 7th of July London bombings


Perhaps you'd believe in god if the media/governement told you to. You seem to accept everything else at face value.


I'd like to ask BOTH of you, in Lieu of an investigation, in Lieu of CCTV evidence showing the chain of events, in Lieu of ANY evidence OTHER that circumstantial, how you believe that the Four named muslims were responsible?

The bombs were detonated UNDER the trains, the Four named muslims were most likely taking part in Peter Powers Visor Consultants "training exercise" that was taking place that morning, just like the morning of 911, real-time exercises were taking place, looking at precisely the scenario that was unfolding. Both don't have anything other than flimsy evidence if anything linking the 19 hijackers and the Four London "bombers" to the scene.

No CCTV of them boarding/waiting
No CCTV of them in the carriages
The train they caught (according to the official narrative) was cancelled. The next train would have arrived at Kings Cross 7 minutes after the explosions.
The various eye witness accounts of the floor being pushed upwards an no muslims present where the explosions took place
They argued with ticket office staff over change for their RETURN tickets
They paid & displayed their parking ticket in their car
The number 30 being the ONLY bus to be "diverted" that day
The "Service team" who were not the usual guys, servicing the Number 30s CCTV system days before for several hours.
The non-functionality of the CCTV system on the bus that day.

The list goes on, and on.

The Four blamed Muslims didn't do this, British intelligence with the help of Mossad carried out this attack. These guys were just the patsies. Want to be respectful to the victims families? Then start by educating yourselves on what really went down on that day.

YOU CAN START HERE

Where in my post does it say who I blame for the bombings? The people responsible should roast in Hell. As usual you add 2 and 2 and get 5.37865.

Then I apologise, I agree that those responsible for this should burn for enernity, I beleive that the culprits are a little closer to home than most on this board seem to want to. It's easier to blame the patsy.

Elvis did it.

He couldn't have, at the time of the first explosion he was performing a 3-way around the world with Princess Di and Lord Lucan on the back of Red Rum.

Three little letters, MI5

and the "5" is a number lol...

Hey DJ! Where were you on Juli 7th 2005?

You are a sick and very disturbing person indeed. Do you get off on stuff like that?

in Reading, UK. However I did fly back to Hamburg that night, why?




Bollox, the 4 accused weren't anywhere near Kings Cross when this went down, if you did a bit of research yourself you would understand that. There is absolutely NO incriminating evidence that these Four men carried out this attack, NONE!

Watch the Peter Power clip I posted earlier, it'll send a wee shiver down your spine, combine that with the Vigilant Guardian exercises that were going on in America on the morning of 911 and you might understand what is going on here. The exercises are a cover. The patsies are setup to take the fall weeks, months maybe years in advance.

Again I challenge you, imagine this is going to court tomorrow, where's the incriminating irrefutable evidence that it was these guys?

There is none.

All you bring up - again - is assumptions and reverse arguments. Nothing substantial, not even close. Your whole list up there has not one valid point that would or could prove those guys didn't do it.
It's actually not me needing to prove something here. You should - but then again your hatred, your agenda and your believes won't allow you to start growing a mind of your own. You are only posting propaganda all the time, filled with hate and contempt - sometimes even close to sedition.
The best part about this is the more you try to hide your real agenda and your real face, the more people on here realize what you are really after.

That Peter Power clip shows fuck all and is, on top of this, totally taking out of it's context. I could do that with the any piece of written or spoken communication or information - incl. bible, quran, torah and so on. May convince your weirdo extremist freaks, but not an educated grown up.

Do you have detailed links of the autopsies and blast damadge and scene of crime findings? I'm not winding you up but they are usually pretty good damming evidence, especialy the classic beheaded suicide bomber body bits, and I cant be arsed to google.

You obviously MISSED the one that states THE TRAIN THEY SHOULD HAVE CAUGHT WAS CANCELLED!! IT was impossible for them to make it in time, that proves to me that they didn't do it, if you still think they did then please show me how exactly they got from Luton to Kings Cross in time for the bombings.

Confirmation from Communications Manager at Thameslink Rail

Now why is that so difficult to understand??

No proof at all. Only assumptions and reverse arguments on that site. No sources, no evidence, no nothing. The people operating this site don't even reveal themselves and we are supposed to take their unproven assumptions for fact? Get real! But then again - I know you can't.

There are photos showing the damage as being under the train, like this one,



Also the many eye witness reports that no one was sitting where the bombs went off. Add all that to the fact that the Four of them were still arseing about on a platform in Luton at this time and it would be pretty hard to find any of their body parts in London.

I think the email speaks volumes


If it's authenticity bothers you that much why not call or email the guy (Chris Hudson), or ask your IP to confirm that the MX address of the Bridgehead servers are correct, shit you could even file a Freedom of Information request to have the communication authenticated.

The question was asked after eyewitnesses came forward to say that the train HAD been cancelled and something with the official narrative was wrong. A member of the truth community asked Thameslink to check, this they did and the communication is posted above.

So, there's my evidence that they weren't there, where's your evience that they were? A CCTV video perhaps of the morning of 7/7/05? A few stills of them on the platform? The escalators? The carriages (Yes tube trains in London are fitted with CCTV).

You will find Nada, ask yourself why??

This photo proves a blast happened inside whatever this structure is. LOL... at least you (or your friends) luckily have no idea of explosives...

I realise that people brought up on a diet on the X-files, Prison Break or more appropriately for the UK, Spooks are certain that the government is competent enough to keep a big secret. Given the fact that govt secrets are being lost in the post and left on trains, etc, I hardly think this one could be any top secret master plan.

7/7 like 9/11 was not a conspiracy, just a normal government screw-up where people were looking in the wrong place but without the invasion of Iraq, it is arguable whether 7/7 would have ever happened.

Was working in London that week just down the road from one of the explosions. Luckily the bombers screwed up by coming to London rather late and therefore missing the really crowded times.

That seems to me to show the blast as being in the train and having damadged the floor while passing out. Tube trains are lightly built so their aluminium structure is a pretty good indicator of blast direction. But I'm no expert. Do you have links to the reports?

OK, DJ! So who is Nick? And who is Chris Hudson? Are they real? Why does only a webpage you can't even find out who is running it, have this proof? Why wouldn't I be amazed if the log on that mail was fake?

It's a sad reflection of us all that we let one twisted person like djgrazy affect our polluted brains, and that we then reply to his posts. Given a choice between being spoon fed propaganda by MI5 and Prince Philip, and djgrazy and his wacko bunch of internet fantasists I choose the former and would prefer if we just ignored djgrazy. Eventually, if nobody rises to the bait, he'll get bored and piss off quietly somewhere else.

The photo and video footage showing metal pushed upwards was broadcast on CBS then pulled. There has been to date no inquiry into 7/7, so no official reports. Only a few photos and eyewitness reports like THIS. Check out the one from Bruce Lait.

HelterSkelter, Nick is a leading figure in the uk 911 truth movement, Chris Hudson as reported is the Communications Manager for Thameslink. You will find the information I posted on many forums and sites throughout the world, I chose one. Try typing 7.40 train cancelled luton into google.

Getting hot under the collar there HA? Why the need for foul language? Realised you're beaten? That you can't find ANYTHING to back up your beliefs? You need to resort to name calling?

I've answered every one of your questions amicably, I've still to see you PROVE beyond a shadow of a doubt that these 4 men were responsible. I believe I can prove that they weren't, if you're so damn sure then please post the "evidence" you've seen that has you so convinced you know the whole story. To date, and until we get an inquiry, I prefer to be non-judgemental.

So true HA! I was a while ago actually openly asking for a ban of DJ because he openly was violating the ban of sedition here in Germany (since this is a German based webpage...). Some people might believe some of the shit he's actually spreading... so some people have to stand up against that bollox. Problem is he's not only a whacko or freak, but also an extremist with racist and totalitarian tendencies...


Oh, so they were banned... that's why you only post pics of blasts that happened in some sub somewhere else on this planet? Pathetic...


Nick? A guess he's a great bloke, but I usually belive nothing if experts on the internet (especially those with an agenda) can't be bothered with providing their full name and profession. It states that CH is a Communications manager, but only because Nick says so, that means nothing. Even if CH is a manager there, did he write it? Where is Thameslink statement on that fact?

Again only assumptions...

It was pointed out to you at the time that I broke NO RULES whatsoever with my postings. It isn't anti-semetic just because YOU say it is. Take your arrogant jewish pish somewhere where people will listen.


Pulled, there's a difference, the photo is the Edgeware Road train blast, not anywhere else in the world. These kind of events are not yet mainstream.


Everything I've posted today can be verified, if you would take five minutes out of your day to research it, not assumptions but FACTS. A word that no doubt as an israeli jew you have trouble comprehending.

I'm still waiting for you to post ONE, JUST ONE piece of evidence that makes a concrete case against these Four muslims. I've told you repeatedly that you will find NONE, You have found NONE. So now you get angry. So where's your evidence then. It just happened so because those in charge said it did? You are a laughing stock.

Either step up to the table with EVIDENCE that they were involved of wake up and smell the coffee and stop it with this immature, zionist shite. You are a bigger part of the problem than you yet realize.


You're right, regardless of who did this we should remember the dead. However I don't reserve just 7/7 for that, thousands are dying on a daily basis on the back of these False Flag Terror events, Thousands of Iraqi woman and children killed daily in our name and all for the greater cause of Oil grabbing corporate fucks and Israeli Warmongers whos parents Hitler should have made a better job of destroying.

The two groups of people behind 7/7 and 9/11 are not Muslim, they worship the star of David and Oil. End of.


Believe me another will come very soon, as long as they are sure that the general populous is dumb enough to swallow it again. You are living proof that that is the case.

Interesting how djcrazy's foam-at-the-mouth anti-semitic rantings always seem to get vetted by mid-morning.

Interesting, given who else were tracked down to Hamburg a few years back...

DJ,

Why did Mohammed Siddique Khan, suicide bomber, go to the trouble of recording a confession (aired on al-Jazeera) if he was not involved ?

If the bomb was under the train why is the metal on the right of the picture pushed downwards?

As mentined earlier, a full scale terror simulation (1000 man on the ground) was being performed on 7/7/5 by Peter Power of Visor Consultants, Peter Power is the ex-head of the Metropolitan Police Force's Terror Branch, and has assisted the government on many occassions in terror management, disaster planning etc. It is the belief of many that the Four accused were part of this drill. The confession could have been recorded under such circumstances. i.e. perhaps he believed the results were going to be televised for a mini-series detailing the events or a documentary of the failings. erhaps he believed that the tape would be sent to the papers as part of the plan.

As far as Siddique Khan goes...


Note the date stamp in the picture!




Is it standard protocol for terrorist suspects to be allowed into the Houses of Parliament?

MORE HERE

If you go to all this trouble why not have them board the trains with "dummy devices" as "part of the exercise". Why are these plots always so overly complicated?

That would have been the plan to get these guys in place for detonation with dummy (or not so dummy) bombs. They would have beieved it was non-lethal. Problem is though it looks like they were still in Luton.

Don't tell me the bombs under the train were placed there when the underground was built.

No, but most probably the evening before at the Hammersmith Depot where all trains involved were stationed.

Worth noting also that Jean Charles Menendes worked as a contract electrician for Metronet, Metronet are the main service and maintenence company for the London Underground. He worked mainly nightshift and serviced trains at that depot among others. Would certainly explain his execution if he "observed" something he wasn't supposed to see coupled with the lies told by the Metropolitan Police about the circumstances surrounding his death.

Didn't Richard Reid work for the company which supplied sandwiches to the B&Q store, which sold de Menezes his pliers as well?

No, that was Homebase.

The real scandal here is how crap our spooks are these days.

Chief Spook: How do we stop this guy talking?

Spook 2: About we arrange for him to get mugged and die from injuries sustained, this sort stuff happens in London.

Spook 3: Nah, too obvious, what we need is a major police operation that shoots him lots of times in full view of the public, then we just claim its all an accident.

Chief Spook: Brilliant, option 2 it is then.

You are a racist and an anti-Semite with a extremist political and most likely extremist religious agenda. You are an insult to this forum and every human being on here.

well said. He also holds views about gay people that woiuld make even Fred Phelps blush.

Djgrazy,

I am sick and tired of reading your psycho theories. At least show some respect for the those who have fallen victim to such attacks. I don't think anyone here believes your fabricated theories.

Not only that. From the now closed gay marriage thread (he's refering to the 7th Juli 2005 - I didn't delete or change a single word):


This guy is truly sick.

sick, or barking mad. Or,even more frighteningly, a clear-sighted überextremist who is quite clear about the NEW WORLD ORDER he is seeking to create.

Why complain about how sick he is when it's all the responses to his rhetoric that's enabling him.

He doesn't know what rhetoric is... he only knows demagogy - and that's a dangerous tool in the hands of a mad man.

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw the Muslims blow it up. Thats all the proof I need.

I can't believe I'm the one to clue you all in, it was George W. Bush of course! He was also responsible for the Tsunami and the Typhoon that struck Mynmar or how ever you call it now.

Nothing too drastic I'm afraid surf-dudester!

Why not take a look at who benefits from the ongoing illegal occupations of Afghanistan & Iraq and soon to be Iran, and no I'm not just talking about Oil and the Greenback here. Look a littledeeper into the regime that simply can't and won't accept it's muslim neighbours. You'll be a damn sight closer to the truth than you ever were.

A nice we nugget of pro information here, and a reminder to you all about how deep rooted this shit is.

Who was the private security company in charge of the airports invlolved in the 911 attacks where surprisingly NO CCTV evidence exists of the hijackers boarding planes?
Who was the private security company in charge of the World Trade Centre complex with full access to all areas and CCTV?
Who was the private security company in charge of the Madrid Metro system at the time of the devastating attacks where CCTV was not present?
Who was the private security company in charge of the London Underground and London Transport systems on 7/7/2005 where again the CCTV was down?
Who was still the private security company in charge of the London Underground System when Jean Charles Menendez got neutered with a surprising lack of CCTV?

What are the chances that ONE security company was in charge during ALL of these events?

VERINT SYSTEMS

Oh and guess what? They are owned by the very people who would benefit the most from ALL the above attacks.

Looks like it's time you waxed that noggin of yours instead of the surf board, duuuuuuuuuuuude

A little piece of advice, look for the humor in the world, you'll live longer.

Jury failed to reach a guilty verdict for three men charged with conspiracy for the July 7th bombings:

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/0...ings/index.html

Slowcal, was waiting for that one. What took so long? (jealous I didn't post it first though)

He just forgot to mention Bush was also responsible for the recent earthquake in China. How could he forget that?