Recommended homoeopaths in Berlin

hallo again,

I've been having problems with my tonsils for a while and want to give a try to homeopathy before returning to the doctor and see if i should really take them out or not.

Has anyone been to any and found them good?

I was given andreas müller's name by someone. has anyone heard of him before?

thanks for helping,
sodax

I'm sure you're not going to believe me. But Homeopathy is quack medicine. In scientific tests it is equal to placebo. There was an episode of Horizon where they really put the last nail in the coffin. They even tackled the claim that it works on animals. QUACK QUACK QUACK! It sounds like nonsense. Dilution makes medicine stronger. It is nonsense. How could that possibly work?

It disturbs me that just about every doctor here feels the need to advertise that they also do homeopathy. It is like putting up a flashing light that says QUACK QUACK QUACK! I'm just sayin'.

The problem with taking a placebo is that you might really be sick and some diseases get worse when they aren't treated. Plus, of course, you're paying money for nothin'.

okay, if i knew people would have replied with these sorts of messages I would never have posted a message here.

whether it is placebo or not it has helped me in other cases before and I want to give it a shot.
so please, do not post unless you have suggestions, i don't want to hear how much you think homeopathy is crap.

thanks.

General discussion has now been moved to the related topic: Info and opinions on homeopathy in Germany

Im sorry for the rude people on this forum, mr.johnsoda... I have never met ruder people in my life...I didnt go for homeopathy before, but have watched it work on my baby..who isnt affected by a placebo effect... unfortunately, the dr. is only for kds so I cant rec. one...

You do know that you don't have to pay by the letter don't you?

Are you sure you live in Germany?

you'd better stock up on painkillers then if 'kissing it better' won't work on the little 'un.

Sadly, some of the more established / opinionated posters seem to have 'gone native' - when in Rome and all that

You don't get out much, do you?How do you know it wasn't the placebo effect in the first place?

There's a difference between the British (and perhaps American) description of homeopathy and the German. They seem to include other herbal remedies where as I think of it as the dilution down to the point there is statistically nothing there. Memory of water and all that rubbish. If the child was taking what we call homeopathy and got better it sure wasn't because of the medicine.

Babies are just as easily affected by the placebo effect. The effect just works differently as it works on them through you.

About three years ago, I had problems in my throat. I was on a business trip so I went to a doctor (and NOT a heilpraktiker) in Bremen who correctly diagnosed it as pharyngitis and started to wax poetic about this incredible medicine that has no side effects whatsoever. It was, indeed, a homeopathic drop that I had to put in water and drink. She was correct in stating that there were no side effects involved, but the problem was that it also had no main effect.

Three days and a very advanced case of infection later, I went to another doctor in Munich who gave me antibiotics. It took me a full week to recover after that, during which I could not even drink water properly because of the soreness in my throat. Lost seven kilos in seven days but that is not my kind of diet, really.

In short, despite the fact that my "evidence" is anectodal, I don't think homeopathic remedies will help you. But then again, you asked for personal experience, so there you go.

By the way, I had my tonsils removed when I was 10, so maybe it doesn't really fit your situation.

well..

I took my coughing baby to a Dr. here (normal, not homeopathic, because ours was closed), who after 1 minute, (looking in his ears, throat, and listening to his chest) dianosed him with ear infections and bronchitis, and prescribed ear drops, and antibiotics.. I decided t hold off on the antibiotics, and give homeopathics instead.. when we went to our normal 3 days later, his ears and lungs were fine..

was it the homeopathics?? maybe, maybe not... could be the QUACK Dr. prescribing all the junk my child didnt need.. we will never know.. however I do know that my baby was healthy 3 days later WITHOUT antibiotics...

Unless of course the homoeopathic doctor swapped the baby for a healthy one without your realising. It happens a lot in homoeopathic practice to combat the placebo allegations...

Most general doctors are just guessing, but it does not mean homeopathic doctors are better.

where did I say they were better???

I just think there are just as many quacks out there in normal medicine as there are in homeopathic..



and maybe if some of you would stop being so judgmental without having ever researched homeopathic medicine, you might see it's not all it "quacked up" to be

I can tell you some very scary stories about doctors who practice traditional medicine using traditional pharmaceutical products.

I do believe there is a small role for homeopathic medicine that people could benefit from. But I also think it depends on the medical condition and a few other factors, including the realistic consideration of other viable treatment options.

The good thing about diseases they are all self-limiting, either you get better or you die.

I reckon us doubters have researched it a lot more than you have or else you wouldn't be so quick to believe that it works.

I believe you, I do not trust general doctors at all. I think it is totally impossible to diagnose something just by looking at tongues and hearing the lungs. Most of the time general doctors just follow whatever the patient thinks he/she got.

I do not believe in homeopathic based on dilution but I believe in some other types of non traditional medicine, but again, most of the times they fail diagnosing.

Krieg, doctors are simply glorified auto mechanics who are grossly over paid and revered by society.

Btw, alternative treatment is something that I'm interested in. I'm reading a book entitled New Choices in Natural Healing. I also like the very old book entitled Life Extension that was first published in 1985. I have another book on natural healing in my car but can't remember the name maybe I will post it later.


http://www.amazon.com/New-Choices-Natural-...3791&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.com/Life-Extension-Pract...3948&sr=1-2

But they provide the Krankenmeldungen

Moving quackly onwards.

Sorry to have offended. I didn't think anything I said was rude. I also posted on the other forum cuz I thought this thread had moved, but it seems it is still going on here.

Please make no mistake. Traditional Homeopathy is QUACK medicine. I can understand that regular doctors also don't know what they are doing sometime, but that is beside the point. You don't have to believe me, I actually could care less. My feeling is this ... people are being scammed by the big H.

IT WOULD BE RUDE NOT TO TELL YOU!!! I tried to make it humorous, but I'm aware that we all have a different idea of what is funny. If someone was scamming me, I would WANT to be told.

All this stuff about, "I tried it on my baby and it worked" is completely useless. It is what is called "Anecdotal Evidence". I'm sure I must have just been rude again, but I don't mean to be. The only way to test something is controlled studies. And that is why they KNOW that Homeopathy is no better than placebo. Statistics. Boring old statistics. If it had worked you would have heard about it. But there is no PROFIT to advertise that something DOESN'T work. You're being SCAMMED.

Herbal medicines are something different. Some of them MIGHT work. Think of it this way, it is a medicine that has NOT been tested. You are experimenting on yourself. The dosage is also uncontrolled. If it can't hurt you it also can't help you. Every effective medicine has side effects. Testing establishes that something works, determines recommended dosage and reports side effects.

I'm sorry but I find your comments 'Anecdotal'. Please provide some evidence to support your rebuttal

No, it doesn't work that way. Until there is a controlled study, there really isn't any reliable evidence. The burden of proof is always on the one making the claim. I could claim I saw a pink unicorn. You would never find any evidence to prove I didn't. Anecdotal evidence is USEFUL for deciding how and what to study. But for well known reasons it is very unreliable. This is just basic Science 101.

I am just trying to HELP!!!

If someone wants to seek out alternative therapies, get out of their way and let them do their thing. We all have our superstitions and silly beliefs and don't need people raining on those various parades (let's not get into the BUT-WHAT-IF-IT'S-FATAL argument). Homeopathy is, at worst, harmless and, for those that believe in it, helps pass the time until the body's normal defenses can take over -- something modern medicine could learn from.

jon and Kommentarlos there have been plenty of studies. Every time I link here I violate some rule or copyright law or something so I would say just google homeopathy and Lancet or Stiftung Warentest and Homeoepathie. There's no science behind or backing homeopathy but the mind is a very powerful organ.

Maybe faithinblueskies can help you out mate.

Can you please elaborate on the differences between homeopathic and herbal medicines? Thanks.

thanks for those who have supported me.. i don't see why i can't go this way about curing myself if i want to try doing it this way before approaching other ways.

i am still looking for recommendations though he he.. :/

I think the above video by the Amazing Randi is a good explanation of what Homeopathy is. Dilute, Dilute, Dilute. In other words, the "medicine" is basically water. Herbal medicines are much older. Modern pharmacy was originally based on natural substances. All native peoples were aware of plants around them with medicinal properties. Aspirin was one of the first big success stories of herbal medicine!


Good luck!

It´s been explained above, but just to clarify:
Homeopaths believe that their medicine is stronger the less it contains of the original ingredient. Until the point that there are no molecules left whatsoever. If this was ever proven to be true, it would be such a scientific earthquake you can´t imagine it.

"Nature medicine" is something completely different. I´m sure anyone who ever smoked a joint can attest to that:)