Mice in a restaurant - does it bother you?

Well,

At last nights Alternative curry, whilst sat chatting at the end, I saw a mouse in the restaurant.. I made comment, but no one else saw it..

Then Graham saw it aswell.

We paid up, but received no offer of appology, and was told it was because of the building work next door..

Well I can tell you this mouse did not have a hi-vis jacket on nor was it wearing a hard hat..

Mice have such weak bladders they piss evertime they run or walk..

Begs the question was there "a rat in the Kitchen?"

G

If there's a rat in the kitchen I suggest that you fix that rat, that's what you should do.

As soon as I saw the thing, I'd cancel any pending order and leave ASAP.

No if's and's or but's...

Hmm. Hard call. Best food I had in Malaysia was in the Chinatown in KL where the rats sometimes practically sat up and begged for table scraps. Dog in the restaurant, mouse on the floor, not a big difference. Until you find out the rice is stored in open bags in the kitchen, which would leave me feeling a bit icky.
"That's not cumin on your naan!"

Toytowners go out for a curry.

I'm with Showem. You can eat some cracking nosh in Asia, but even in the "cleaner" places like Singapore or KL, there are as many rats as people in every food court or hawker centre. Cockroaches too of course, sometimes running free, sometimes as starters.

I once read an article in some shite Singaporean rag about hawker centres and the appaling levels of hygiene in some of them. The articles slant was that hygiene was not as important as taste really, with the headline "So food court dirty - but taste good lah!"

I don't like the idea of mice in the restaurant. I would however warrant a guess that over here in a OTT politically correct place like Germany, more people would complain about animal rights if the mice was killed than would complain about the risk of food contamination if the mouse can get into the kitchen. Also, its probably not legal to sell any kind of rat poison over here. If washing your own car in something as caustic as *gasp* soapy water is illegal, cannot see rat poison being widely available.

Well, I would understand if we were in one of those other places mentioned but here in Germany they shouldn't have mice in the restaurant. Cockroaches are really hard to get ride of so most restaurants in old buildings have some but mice can be dealt with. Grinner you need to add a choice of good food and not knowing there are mice in the kitchen.

have you ever seen the little fellahs in kilians? up and down the stairs like little greyhounds...

I really didn't need to know that...rats give me the, well, for lack of a better word...heebie-jeebies.

Animals don't gross me out, but some people do. If the cook looked like a rat, then I would leave, but if the cook only looked like a mouse, then I would recommend a good plastic surgeon.

@ kitkat64, they weren't rats, but mice... and they looked like they were trying to get outta the place as fast as i was

What really bothered me was not entirely the mouse sprinting backwards and forwards in fornt of but the non challance of the restaurant staff. I would have expected them to aplogise profusely, offer a discount and promise to ensure extermintaion by menas of mouse-trap and/or poison, thus ensuring our future custom.

As Grinner says mice are filthy creatures who piss every where and leave there shit lying around, not mention the diseases they can spread (we are not talking cute mousy wousies in cages as pets!). There is a reason the health authorities take a dim view of restaurants with pest problems.

I mean, even the best restaurants can get pests but they then deal with it immediately and take preventataive measures for the future.

These guys just said, "well in India they are everywhere and he only cam in co of the building work next door"

NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

I can assure you, there is a huge difference between mice and rats.
Rat's carry the diseases, mice not so much. Dirty they might be, but so is a booger picking chef.

That's what you get for going out in the skanky part of town.
You didn't get mice last week over here in Neuhausen, did you?

Mice are not all that clean

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Yeah, but those only affect the poor little mousy and not humans.

But I would not like to find that I have black rice kernals regardless.

alright, you win

After all you have had a rat in the whitehouse for many years...

I guess I am just immune to squecky mice. Now, if there were cockroaches running around everywhere, then I would run away and never go back.

La Kuka Racha...La Kuka Racha...

Any food establishment I've worked in has had problems with vermin/rodents/ants at some stage.

Is someone going to report them to the relevant authority ?

how does one go about doing this?

tbh it wouldn't be necessary if they shown the slight bit of interest in dealing with the problem, like you say any food establishment will have problems at one point or another but it is how you deal with it that makes the difference.

It took me along time here in Germany to get over people with dogs in restaurants, but rodents NO! I have eaten on streets in India, Mexico and Kenya, never got sick, but I have limits, we are not on the streets of a 3 world country. We are in a very developed and modern city, that means, cleanliness by eating. I wanted to try this restaurant, as its close to me, but, not now! Especially when the staff made no excuses or apologies.

If you only knew what goes on in the kitchen of some places, you would never go out to eat again.

In California, all establishments serving food are given a letter grade poster, A to D, A being great - which must be displayed prominently on the door. The grade is determined by Dept. of Food & Safety (?), from recurring and surprise inspections. They can close a place down on the spot if it fails inspection. When they introduce this, it was a fantastic idea - you can drive past a place and see how well they've met their last inspection. Would love to see something similar here.

I have no problems with mice though, in some contexts. Similar to Showem's post; I've had great dining experiences where the mice darting across the courtyard of an exotic Asian location actually added to the ambiance.

Call the Food Police ( here )

YL6

is a dog in a restaurant a big problem for most people? ours goes everywhere with us, i'd like to know if people are not ok with this, don't want to be a burden for other diners.

agree that there is no real reason for rodents in a restaurant in germany, i'd probably eat if i liked the food a lot but wouldn't go there again.

i love dogs, i grew up with them, but i wouold never take a dog into a restaurant (it would frighten the mice!).

seriously i think they do disturb people. many dogs smell (i hate the smell of dogs when i am trying to eat. you get used to oyur own dogs smell and it doesn't bother but other peoples dogs do) and i don't think people should have to be subjected to it, especially when it is not really necessary.

Outdoors, and in drinks-only pubs is a different matter.

Arn't Resturants one of the few place where dogs are banned???

I have seen many a dog at a restaurant. I don't mind them at the beergardens so much but in a small, closed area...

At least mice don't come in wet from the rain and do that stupid dog shaking thing right at the same height as your food and table...ugh. Not to mention the loud barking when they see another dog or something. It just seems out of place to me.

I love dogs but I don't see the reason why they can't just stay home. Gives them time to watch TV, surf the Net, have a bath or do whatever it is they do when we are not around

The mice...well they can live there as long as they are clean and stay out of sight.

I'm not a great fan of dogs, but have no problems with them in restaurants (or anywhere else!) so long as they don't disrupt my meal. i.e. no barking, smelling, farting or trying to roger my leg... If they did, then I'd make it clear they were not welcome to both owner and management. Unlike mice, at least you can see where their noses are going...

YL6

I actually enjoy that dogs are in restaurants, hair salons, and virtually every where. It is not that I am a fan of dogs, but it demonstrates to me a large cultural difference between Germany and where I hail from-the U.S. In the US if something could possibly, not even necessarily, offend someone-no matter how trivial-it will be banned. I do appreciate that in the US the idea is to accomodate everyone but it goes too far. In Germany if the owners enjoy dogs they allow them. And if the customers want to bring them they can!! If you,as a fellow diner, object-don't go there or return.
Now the truth is that I really appreciate dogs and enjoy seeing them almost everywhere and enjoy seeing when the waiter brings a small bowl of water for the dogs as well. However the same argument for dogs I apply to smoking as well (with the understated knowledge that smoking can impair someone else's health). Here I don't mind if a restaurant is too small and everyone except me is smoking. It is my choice to go there. If I want to determine my own rules and restraints for other patrons, I will stay at home. If I go out not only do I except the place and other patrons to be respectful of me, but more importantly I understand that I must also be accepting of the other's preferences.
Enough of my rant...long live esatblishments that allow dogs...

We went back to lastweeks Curry house and Got an admission and an appology from the owner..
Top bloke he is too..

Here is the evidence..

I've never seen a dog in a Chinese restaurant in Munich

Lets rephrase that..."you have not seen a live dog in a chinese restaurant"..god knows where all those small pieces of meat you find in your food come..hard to tell

I might have missed it, but which curryhouse was this, so I can avoid it?

@ UA: you don't need to avoid it. Problem seems to be under control, since the owner (who is a very nice chap) has put measures into place to stop this happedning again.

It was New Delhi in Haidhausen
The food was excellent
The service was the best in Munich so far.
The decor was typical Indian /ie gaudy and bright flashing christmas lights)
and the prices were reasonable

so i can only recommedn he place now.

but for you i can also recommend a place a little closer to home:

Santoor Restaurant on the corner of Freischützstrasse and Englschalkingerstrasse (although the address is actually the street going north from englschalkingerstrasse)

Yeah I go to Santoor quite a bit )

There's a really good one on Papa-Schmidt-Str which i prefer though, and will travel to, if it's not too late in the evening

But thanks for the tip

The one on Papa-Schmid-Str is Samrat - it's one of my favourites, too.