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Privatization of the Buchenwald concentration camp

A symptom of "Holocaust amnesia"?

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James_Runner
This from the Times Online (21 June 2008): The families who set up home in the Buchenwald concentration camp

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About 4,000 inmates were worked, starved and beaten to death in Rehmsdorf, deep in eastern Germany. ... Now the same camp has become a suburban idyll. The tidy, lush gardens are occupied not by the SS but by plastic gnomes. There are rose terraces, goldfish ponds, apple trees, swings and playhouses for the children — a case of Holocaust amnesia. A dozen families live in the camp and they do not want to be disturbed. Conveniently, one of the barracks buildings has been converted into premises for a breeder of German shepherd dogs; every neighbour has bought at least one, trained to growl and snarl as soon as someone approaches the front gate.

The article includes an interesting interview with Manfred Kriegel, who now lives in the house of the former camp commandant, the SS officer Rudolf Kenn.

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Over the kitchen table the SS architects carved the slogan: “To be German means to show character.� Mr Kriegel has covered it up with a block of wood. He has also plastered over a huge blue skull with the chilling motto: “Führer, give us the order and we will follow you!�

I wonder if this has been covered by the German press.
Small Town Boy
Rehmsdorf isn't part of the Buchenwald concentration camp. The site of the Buchenwald concentration camp is not privatised and no-one lives there. It is now a memorial site. There was a satellite camp of Buchenwald located in the village of Rehmsdorf. There were hundreds of such satellite camps in Germany, including many in and around Munich; I don't believe it's necessary or desirable to turn every last one into a memorial site. Of course one mustn't forget what happened, but at the same time the country has moved on.
z-man99
I wish the current and present human rights violations would get the same uproar.
I'm a great friend of the Israeli people and the country Israel, but not of the politics of Israel.

Palestine (have you personally witnessed Israeli bulldozers destroying water wells dug by hand? I have!!)
Guantanamo Bay (and the fake indictments against Muslims)
The privatization of jails in the US

By no means do I even remotely approve the Nazi regime. But it may be time to focus a bit more on current events.

Are you with me?
kato
QUOTE (z-man99 @ Jun 26 2008, 6:44 pm) *
The privatization of jails in the US

Germany also has two PPP jails... not really there yet, but on the way to it. 45/65 split in e.g. Hünfeld, full privatization would violate GG Art 33.
Lifeisabuffet
QUOTE (z-man99 @ Jun 26 2008, 6:44 pm) *
I wish the current and present human rights violations would get the same uproar.
I'm a great friend of the Israeli people and the country Israel, but not of the politics of Israel.

Palestine (have you personally witnessed Israeli bulldozers destroying water wells dug by hand? I have!!)
Guantanamo Bay (and the fake indictments against Muslims)
The privatization of jails in the US

By no means do I even remotely approve the Nazi regime. But it may be time to focus a bit more on current events.

Are you with me?


I am not with you.
Current events FOR Germany are
1) Hartz IV
2) The increasing number of Germans who are living under the poverty line
3) The Abgeltungssteuer

The events that you listed are none of your business.
Mapleleafdude
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Conveniently, one of the barracks buildings has been converted into premises for a breeder of German shepherd dogs


That just so proves that the German Shepard by nature hates all Jews and Blacks. dry.gif

The author clearly expects all the people to walk around in shame all day long and that the kids be shown pictures of malnourished or dead prisoners(not just the Jewish ones) before the age of 4. Its nice to hear that something horrible has turned into a place where children play.
Anyways they're East Germans and have a newer burden to carry for all the horrible things that they did to each other during the communist period. Maybe they can go down to Gaza and show the Israelis and Palestinians how to accomplish peace.
MichiS
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meikeerik
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I am not with you.
Current events FOR Germany are
1) Hartz IV
2) The increasing number of Germans who are living under the poverty line
3) The Abgeltungssteuer

The events that you listed are none of your business.




Lifeisabuffet,
Are you seriously comparing HartzIV and Abgeltungssteuer to human rights violations? Come on. And why is the stuff that z-man lists non of his business? You can differ with his opinion about the particular things he listed, but if anything Buchenwald should have taught us that certain things SHOULD be other people's business. It seems you are saying that he should only concern himself with the events in his own home country. That doesn't seem to make much sense in light of Nazi atrocities, does it? And to follow your logic, what business do you have as an American living in Zürich (just making an educated guess here), commenting on a forum for expats in Germany discussing German life? And consequently, how come you are even reading this thread since it's none of your business either, you not being German or even currently located here at all.

To be accurate, I believe it is perfectly fine for you to comment here, but it just irks me when people are telling others to shut it for arbitrary reasons, because they don't like what they have to say, but won't apply those same rules to themselves.
z-man99
QUOTE (Lifeisabuffet @ Jun 27 2008, 1:24 pm) *
The events that you listed are none of your business.

Lifeisabuffet do you have a chip on your shoulder or were you intoxicated when you wrote this line?

If this wouldn't be a public forum I would use other words for your obnoxious and completely idiotic remarks.

Crawl out from underneath your kitchen table and get a reality check.
Bipa
Holocaust amnesia? It's already happened. The first Jewish holocaust has mostly been forgotten. Perhaps because only an estimated 300,000 were killed that time.
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