Deadline for German tax returns

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Hi there. I just have a quick query. I started a job at the end of November 2002 and haven't got round to filing my tax return yet. Silly me!

I thought that I had until the end of 2003 and kept putting it off. Now I find that I only had until 31.May.2003 to file it. Is this correct? Can I be fined?

I would really appreciate any info. Thanks a mill.

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We filed ours last month (October 2003 for 2002 returns). No problem and are getting some back. Just do it.

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End of May if you do it yourself, end of September if you use a Steuerberater. In both cases, if you can provide a good reason you can get extensions without being fined. You may have to pay interest on anything you owe them, however... (although they pay you interest if they owe you anything!).

Best thing is to send a quick letter saying that due to business commitments you are delayed and giving them a date you hope to be able to submit by. Fines don't start being levied until you get the first reminder letter. In Munich the Finanzamts are overloaded - they aren't too bothered with people who are a little late. Out in the sticks (e.g. Freising, Ebersberg), things are a little tighter.

The Finanzamt like to be informed - so long as you talk to them they are happy. Go quiet and they chase you.

Even better, get a Steuerberater - they have better excuses, and often save you money in any case.

With both a good Steuerberater, and a pocket full of good excuses, it's late 2004 I still haven't submitted for 2002.

YL6

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you technically have until december 31, 2005 for your 2003 tax return.

i got in my 2001 return in on december 30, 2003. then again, they didn't really need my tax return anyhow.

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I filed my 2001/2002/2003 tax return in LK Ebersberg in May 2004. They didn't care that they were late and I had my $$ back for all three yrs within about 4-6 weeks, with no penalties.

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I was here working for the last 4 months of 2001. I finally did the tax thing in the end of 2003 and surprise, I ended up with over 3000€ in my pocket. I got back pretty much every penny I had paid to the government for the first few months of working. It was great, like winning the lottery. No penalties, etc. Just do it.

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Tax payers who's only source of income is employment income (“Lohnsteuerkarte

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A quick question related to taxes.

When is the deadline for filing the tax return for 2005?

Henrik

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As far as I know it's April 6th, 2006. Someone else please correct me if I'm wrong.

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And if you miss the deadline, no problem. Do it with next years tax return. Doing two years in one go is allowed.

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I just spoke to and advisor and asked what the deadline was. They said that it has now changed and you must file your return by the 31st December 2006 for the previous year.

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This one will test the combined knowledge of all you clever people...

As all good queries start...

"I have a friend" (honest, Guv!) who has been here a couple of years and has done bugger all about filing tax returns and trying to claim money back. Has been here since Q4 2004. Now, the big question is when does the ability to retrospectively file and claim any avalable tax refunds run out? ie is 2004 now put to bed and gone forever?

My "friend" would be very grateful for a hint...

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I also have a "friend" who is a terribly lazy procrastinator. Is it still possible to file for 2005/2006 and get a refund? Does it really all have to be done online now?

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I also have a "friend" here who hasn't actually told the tax man he's even here yet (since april last year) after some interesting advice from a tax accountant, who said "wait for them to contact u as in theory because of EU practices the uk tax office should inform the german tax man your here!" (get paid by a uk company into offshore account & don't have a german bank account as no need so far) :unsure:

But said"friend is now a bit concerned & would feel better if he did inform the tax man, just concerned over what they might say after not telling them for so long!

any advice would be appreciated.

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simon: if your friend is getting his salary from a U.K. company directly, question is if he is not legally "entsendet" (i.e. dispatched) to do a job in Germany in which case, as I understand it, he is not taxed here in Germany. can you clarifiy his actual employment position a bit more?

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Not dispatched here from work, purely erm "his" choice to come over to germany & continue working just from a different location.

He doesn't get tax taken off in the uk after having a residency ruling saying he's not resident in uk & also had a letter from the inland revenue saying he should be subject to social security legislation of member state in which is residing , so currently in process of having to get some public health insurance.

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If your friend has advised the UK Inland revenue that he's living in Germany, then the UK IR will almost certainly advise the Germans in the fullness of time. The Germans will attempt to make contact with him to determine if he has any income to declare or should have registered with them or submitted a tax return. If he did have income to declare but has not registered/declared it within the time allowed they will levy penalties which could be severe. It's a general pre-requisite to pay tax dues in parallel to income. As an employee that means "pay as you earn" and as self employed that means a regular (usually quarterly) pre-payment according to your mutually agreed estimated income or tax liability.

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So if my "friend" has decided to get off his arse & do something about paying some tax, who would he go & see for sorting it out bearing in mind he's been here slightly over a year already?

Would he just need to go & get a tax number from somewhere, or would it be best talking to another tax accountant & doing it through them?

Any advice much appreciated.

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You might need to join a Lohnsteuerhilfeverein, a club that helps tax return. They did it for me this year and I got >2500 EURO back. The annual fee for that club depends on your income which should be around 100~200EURO.

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I have to submit a tax return for 2006, I gave all the details to a Steuerberater in Aug 06, but he still hasn't done anything at all !

I now have my doubts that he will do it by the end of 2007 as he seems too busy.

Where does this leave me? Will I get fined for late submission? Does anyone know how much the fines are? Can I pass the fines on to the Steuerberater for incompetance?

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Did you mix up the dates in your post? How could someone know all the details for a tax return for 2006 before 2006 has ended? Maybe he didnt consider this as a binding mandate and is still waiting for you to give him the rest of the necessary information... Anyway, like in every (not just business) relation the key is communication. ;) Call him and ask when the tax return will be done. If you expect to get a lot of money back, tell him you want it as soon as possible. If he is not a complete moron, deadline will be no problem, as he can ask the "Finanzamt" for prolongation of your time limit.

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I had a snafu regarding my 2005 taxes and ended up just paying what the finanzamt told me their estimation was. Then, way after the fact, the tax person submitted my stuff and I am getting a large refund (any day now). So if your tax person is too late with their submissions, that is the protocol.

The thing with mine was that they lost all my materials except a couple of pieces of paper (proving I had indeed given them my stuff originally). The preparer said that if there was a fine, they would be responsible for paying it. There ended up being no fine and my return is just reaaaaly delayed and I had to pay the estimated tax, which I will get back.

I was also informed by my tax preparer that the new law mandates that all taxes be completed within the following calendar year. Not sure about my tax preparer's urlaub so I will get my 2006 stuff to him asap.

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My boyfriend and I just saw our tax guy yesterday (Dec 2007). We gave him all our tax information for 2005 and 2006. He said that tax returns for 2005 must be filed by the end of the year 2007. So, basically, 2 years is what you have.

Don't worry.

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My boyfriend and I just saw our tax guy yesterday (Dec 2007). We gave him all our tax information for 2005 and 2006. He said that tax returns for 2005 must be filed by the end of the year 2007. So, basically, 2 years is what you have.

Erm, I don't think so. You have till the end of 2007 to do your 2006 taxes. It used to be have to be done earlier than that, end of October I think, and you could apply for an extension, but that changed recently. Now you don't get an extension but you have longer to submit, i.e the end of the year. If you're only submitting your stuff for 2005 now, I think you are going to have problems.

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