Dreamliner becomes "Screamliner"

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Remember all that stuff about the egg on the EADS face over the delays hitting the A380 ?

 

Well anything Europe can do - the US can do better :

 

Boeing adopting fecal odor before large fan

 

 

As a result of these troubles, Boeing has ended with "new revised schedules" and an "extraordinary embarrassment" comparable to the humiliation that EADS had as a result of the multiple delays on the Airbus A380.

 

The even-worse thing is that, while it's understandable that companies like Boeing and EADS may have setbacks in the construction of these giant next-generation machines, the problem doesn't end in the technological embarrassment: Boeing will have to pay compensation to the airlines who have already bought 850 Dreamliners—which is "far more than any other aircraft at this stage"—and were expecting them on time.

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Remember all that stuff about the egg on the EADS face over the delays hitting the A380 ?

And a lot of sniggering & snearing was going on then - you know what they say about people living in glasshouses...

 

People never learn - many technical projects get way-optimistic schedules (driven by marketing & top management) & some issue is bound to raise its head. Not only in aviation business - in IT some new systems make it out on time but others run into delays, some of which are significant it a chip has to be re-spun...

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Gloat, gloat, gloat, gloat, gloat, gloat, gloat, gloat, gloat, gloat, gloat,

gloat, gloat, gloat, gloat!

Oh hangon I'm an Airbus fan. Sorry, carry on.

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maybe boeing should rehire alan mulally? seems they were doing much better when he was at the helm.

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Actually I doubt if you will find people within Airbus doing much gloating.

 

A fellow club member is VP of Manufacturing & Assembly @ Airbus - when Boeing were having their trouble getting the 787 off the ground in the first place he seemed to have a certain amount of sympathy for them.

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I doubt it is the railroads doing all the gloating or the cruise ship lines. Maybe the Zeppelin is trying a comeback.

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Not a Good Week For Boeing..

 

Japanese airlines ground Boeing 787 Dreamliner fleet after emergency landing

 

 

The 787, operated by Japan’s All Nippon Airways (ANA), made an emergency landing outside Tokyo yesterday after cockpit controls warned of battery error and indicated smoke. The incident is the sixth in the past 10 days to hit the Dreamliner, which Boeing has touted as the future of air travel, due to its radical new design, systems and materials.

The FAA has Followed Japans Lead and has now grounded all US based 787's as well..

FAA grounds all US Boeing 787 Dreamliners after second lithium ion battery failure

 

 

Boeing's 787 Dreamliner began joining US airline fleets last year, but a fire started by the plane's lithium ion batteries last week put it on the docket for a review by the FAA. After a second mishap caused by the bird's batteries, the FAA is now requiring US airlines to temporarily ground all Dreamliners. In addition, the agency said it's given international aviation authorities a heads-up so they can take similar measures. According to the regulatory outfit, the battery failures could botch critical systems and structures, in addition to starting fires.

One would expect the other 787 operators, Ethiopian Airlines,Air India,LAN Airlines, Qatar Airways & LOT to follow suite soon..

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Is it that bad? Most new planes have teething problems. (I don't mean to minimize potential safety issues, but there was a similar level of alarm with the A380s when they first came into service).

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In the end it's all a joke anyway. For a long time now Boeing vs. EADS sales/orders have been reduced to nothing but a "feather in the cap" to politicians on both sides of the pond. Any order for several VERY expensive planes is instantly added to the books to boost the GDP figures. Politicians themselves lobby hard for both Boeing and EADS sales throughout all levels of government....it's even part of the "official business" plan/layout during official state visits. After all don't forget...both Boeing and EADS make military aircraft as well. That alone should open the eyes of doubters of this. And let's not forget the "after the sale" replacement parts, maintenance schedules and training dollars/euros involved as well.

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Is it that bad? Most new planes have teething problems. (I don't mean to minimize potential safety issues, but there was a similar level of alarm with the A380s when they first came into service).

 

They do, but the A380 has never been grounded worldwide or by any aviation authority. Only Individual planes

were grounded by their operators until repairs were made.

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The source of Boeing's problems with the 787 was bringing in "management consultants" and then actually doing every bit of stupid that they said. When the incredibly myopic pro-outsourcing financial fanbois are screaming that maybe this sort and amount of outsourcing wasn't a good idea, you know you've really fucked up.

 

 

It didn’t help that the outsourcing plan included skipping the detailed blueprints the company would have normally prepared, and allowing vendors to come up with their own. Delivered components arrived with instructions and notes written in Chinese, Italian, and other languages.

And from our correspondent in Oppositeland...

 

 

They do, but the A380 has never been grounded worldwide or by any aviation authority. Only Individual planes

were grounded by their operators until repairs were made.

 

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Emirates and Qantas would disagree.

 

woof.

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I'm due to fly on one in February. Wish me luck/a quick death.

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Make sure to get a seat near the emergency exit, if they aren't already reserved of course.

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And from our correspondent in Oppositeland...

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Emirates and Quantas would disagree.

woof.

 

OK, So Only Quantas & Emirates grounded their fleets.. Thats a CARRIER'S decision.

In both of those cases, neither the AU or QT govt. avation dept. forced the carriers

to ground their planes..

 

Other users of the A380 still continued to fly them. Again, the A380 has never been totally

grounded (Blanket wise/all carriers) by any Govt. body.

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Again, the A380 has never been totally

grounded (Blanket wise/all carriers) by any Govt. body.

My link Ahem.

 

 

Published : 8 Feb 2012 11:13 am by Tim Brown

All Airbus A380 aircraft grounded due to wing cracks

 

Aircraft maker Airbus has been ordered to ground and check the wings of all A380 superjumbo planes currently in operation.

 

The move forced by The European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) comes after Australian carrier Qantas Airways, grounded one of its planes after engineers say they found 36 wing cracks after the aircraft encountered severe turbulence. The latest order extended the checks to the entire fleet of 68 A380 Airbus aircraft.

The 380 was effectively grounded by the Airworthiness Directive because without the mandated wing checks, the planes could not legally continue to fly. It was a "full grounding" by a government agency in everything but name because politics.

 

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Qantas has no "u".

 

That and the misspelling of "Gandhi" as "Ghandi" are my 2 main spelling mistake pet hates.

 

As you were...

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Qantas has no "u".

That had to be one of the shortest-lived marketing campaigns ever.

 

woof.

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Qantas has no "u".

 

That and the misspelling of "Gandhi" as "Ghandi" are my 2 main spelling mistake pet hates.

 

As you were...

 

nor does color or favorite or flavor...

 

:P

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