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Differences between German and American resumes

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I am about to begin the process of testing the job market and I am in need of some "sample" German resumes. I have been advised that there is a difference (although I am not sure what exactly) and I was hoping that someone would have a copy of one or a sample format that I could follow . . . ???

Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!

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1. Start it with your education - specifically your degree(s) and then list any (2.) vocational training. Germans tend to look for your education as a basis for your experience and you need to prove that you have had 'training' in the field in which you are applying.

3. They may want to see proof of this training (degrees and certificates) during your interview.

4. Then list your experience in reverse order - last first and then history.

5. State: References can be provided

6. Hobbies are UK specific and optional.

7. Then get ready for long interviews. Research the company and make sure you are ready for 'panel' type interviews. Up to 8 people is not so uncommon.

As a side note: Most American companies do background checks so don't lie on your resume. Make sure everything you list can be validated with phone numbers, supervisor's names (if you remember them) and addresses for the H.R. Dept.

Good Luck.

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expaticus, want to hire me? i'll send a very short and succinct resume/cv to you!

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The Germans do their order the opposite that we do (if, first job first etc..) They also even put their primary school even on their CV. And there is no "Purpose" Statement on theirs.

Also, basically everything that is illeagal to even put on a CV in the states is standard here (nationality, marital status, age, picture etc...)

Also - is usual to have 2 pages, where as for us a 2 pager is a big no no.

Good luck!

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I had a book over there that had great details about CVs and letters. It was called something like "Working in Germany for EU nationals". Found it one of the normal chain bookstores.

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expaticus, want to hire me? i'll send a very short and succinct resume/cv to you!

The problem is that you've already presented me with an illegal Dekolleté photo :-)

Seriously, what are your qualifications? ... we're always looking ... and my former assistant here in Frankfurt was from Wisconsin as well!

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i'm varied in my expertise and experience. as for the photo... i can put in my proper catholic girl one if you'd like. It was a favorite at the nunnery.

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i'm varied in my expertise and experience. as for the photo... i can put in my proper catholic girl one if you'd like. It was a favorite at the nunnery.

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U.S. resume format fine. We are an international firm that has locations in both Frankfurt and Munich.

Please use the TT response address.

Just kidding on the photo :-)

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Putting your parents' professions on the resume is outdated. Many people don't know that though and still do it anyway.

But yeah, a photo is a must, so is your DOB, and the other things eurobabs mentioned.

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i don't get it. what does it matter what you look like? why does age, gender, or if your married matter?

should education and experience? then at the interview you can get a better idea of personality and other info.

why does personal information (maritial status and the such) play into it? Why are they allowed to judge from that and your sex and age?

i understand if it is job specific- a model for plus clothing or something that is more age/sex defined, but most jobs are not.

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Mere, Laws in America protect from pre-judgment and discrimination. They don't apply here. They want to see you before they bother to call you for an interview. Are you married? Single? Have hobbies? They want to know if you will 'fit' in. We had the same problem with renting an apt. My husband is British and I'm American...one place said no. It shocked me too. It's just a fact.

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Ahhh ... but European social mores are so much more fair, socially-responsible and sophisticated realtive to American ones </sarcasm>

"All animals are equal ... but some are more equal than the others" -- Orwell

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moctoj2- i'm well aware that laws differ between countries. I was merely saying i personally do not understand (i understand why laws are different, but i do not see why that information would matter) since a person should be taken for what s/he can/not do and this has no bearing on how s/he looks, what the hobbies are, and what sort of relationship you may or may not be in.

Yes, it's nice if people get along, but from what i've heard it's not as if Germans socialize outside of work all that much so does it matter what your hobbies are? I can work just fine with my coworkers who go play bingo for fun, sit around and watch tv, or drink a lot even though i prefer training dogs, being outside, and other things.

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Your hobbies say something about you. Actually it is very wise to think about which hobbies exactly to put on the resume.

If you have hobbies that are all loner hobbies, you may be a loner, not work well in a team. If you like playing team sports, you may work better in a team. Do you have dangerous hobbies, hobbies at all...

The picture, I think is mainly to see if the person looks nice (like a nice person), knows how to take a resume picture, (not which race they are), at least I'd like to think so. ;)

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i'm sure Jeffrey Dahmer could take a nice picture, but that doesn't mean he won't drug, murder, and eat you.

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Of course not, but then I am sure he would have been able to put together a nice resume as well. ;)

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If you get discriminated against after the potential employer looked at your photo, at least you are spared a stressful interview and some lying to your face about why they haven´t chosen you. <_<

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Mere, I completely agree with you. Sorry if I sounded differently, but I don't understand either why I should submit a photo, add my marital status and hobbies. How would that qualify me to be an engineer is my thought. I heard that germans just want the 'facts', but yet, they want photos and marital status? Just doesn't make sense to me.

IMHO, probably my American background, I think a photo is discrimination. My husband was born in India, but raised in London, so he's as British English as they come. Doesn't even like Indian food for that matter, thankfully. But if you see him, he's definately mid-eastern and could and has been discriminated against here. As soon as he speaks german, the guard is let down. I've seen it happen. Of course, he married an American Italian, speaks german and then is 'judged' okay. So we're both foreigners here. BTW, he transfered from London to work here within the company, so hiring was just a matter of convincing mgrs that he would be valuable to the team.

Sorry, if there was any offensive, none meant.

Oh, and Expaticus if you're hiring in the Stuttgart area, I'd like to submit my resume too. See this.

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This resume landed in my inbox today :lol: .

Subject: My ResimaY

ResimaY

To hoom it mae cunsern,

I waunt to apply for dajob what I saw in da paper. I can Type real quik wit one finggar and do sum a counting.

I think I am good on da phone and no I am a pepole person, Pepole really seam to respond to me well. Certain men and all the ladies.

Im lookin for a Jobb as a reporter but it musent be to complicaited.

I no my spelling is not to good but find dat I Offen can get a job thru my persinalety. My salerery is open so we can discus wat you want to pay me and wat you think that I am werth,

I can start imeditely. Thank you in advanse fore yore anser.

hopifuly Yore best aplicant so farr.

Sinseerly,

BRYAN nikname Beefy

PS : Because my resimay is a bit short - below is a pickture of me.

post-14005-1197990888.jpg

Employer's response:...

Dear Beefy-I mean Bryan,

It's OK honey, we've got spell check. You're hired.

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Would someone be willing to vet my resume and give me a few pointers as to where I screwed up with it? :rolleyes: if you can just send me a pm. Thankyou!

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Hey all,

I'm going through this process right now as well and was super shoked to find all the extraneous information that German companies want. The photo is a big one. Coming from the States, yeah, this is totally discrimination, but we're in Germany now and this is how the Germans "do," and I respect that and obviously want to follow the rules (especially if it gets me hired).

So my question is this: what type of photo are we talking here? passport photo? What size? Headshot only or...? Forgive me if this info has already been covered but I didn't find it anywhere.

Thanks!

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