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The post-election thread of post-electorality

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If it's a Grand Coalition with Mutti at its head, I'll pass.

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There is clearly some underlying FAIL here though. Stuck on political groundhog day.

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It appears the SPD need someone to run for them that can appeal to the floating voter by something other than intelligence and depth. If they act now, Tony Blair could be a German in 8 years

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Is the implication that Peer Steinbrueck's problem was intelligence and depth? The problem, I thought, was that it wasn't clear what he stood for that was a significant change in direction.

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If he wasn't such a chump, Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg could have had his day in the sun today?

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The implication is that the German population are obviously more comfortable with being comfortable and unchalleged intellectually by Mutti, who has no policies, or if she has them, does not want to discuss them. Steinbrueck's problem is indeed that for many he is "too difficult". He's tried to argue policy in detail, but was rebuffed (and successfully) by "you've never had it so good" from Mrs Merkel. And the German voters have shown what they prefer.

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Merkel seems to be a vampire who sucks anyone dry who enters into a coalition with her. The party that deserved least to win has won. More political sclerosis but most certainly even higher taxes and more surveillance laws.

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Oh, ZDF is suggesting a Union absolute majority, very narrowly, in terms of BT seats.

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The party that deserved least to win has won.

Its the party that got the most votes.

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Technically it's the electoral union of CDU and CSU that may or may not have an absolute majority; they're two separate parties, something that will become abundantly clear if they have a majority together (FSM verhüte...) :)

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Oh, ZDF is suggesting a Union absolute majority, very narrowly, in terms of BT seats.

Then for once Merkel would have to answer for all of her policies herself. Definitively preferable to a grand coalition.

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Mrs Merkel has policies? She sure as hell never discussed any of those before...

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This is a Pyrrhic victory for the CDU and the last triumph for Angela Merkel.

As it looks right now the CDU will win the majority of seats in the new Bundestag therefor can (and has to! ) govern alone without coalition partner.

From now on they are the sole responsibles and the sole scapegoat for what goes, in the eyes of the electorate, wrong. Within 2 years Angela Merkel will be the most critisized politician in Germany , and if she dares to run for another term in 4 years ( or sooner ) she will get washed into the gutter and the CDU' political influence will sink dramatically .

BTW: Today the CDU seem to have lost one of its strongholds, Hessen, to a possible coalition of SPD and Greens. Bad for the ruling party in Berlin, since this means less power inthe second chamber, Bundesrat.

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Rumour has it too that Mrs Merkel intends to pull out anyway in 2 years.

The reduction of power in the Bundesrat is, in case of an absolute majority, a wonderful check on the Bundestag

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Looks like they don't have the absolute majority anymore...

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It's in a see-saw status now. But I suspect that sosarx is right and Merkel is silently rooting for "just under absolute". In her dream-world, I'm guessing that Black-Green is what she really truly wants.

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It's in a see-saw status now. But I suspect that sosarx is right and Merkel is silently rooting for "just under absolute". In her dream-world, I'm guessing that Black-Green is what she really truly wants.

It has been noted that she's sporting a black-green necklace :D

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Trittin is congratulating Merkel and being generally nice to her. Is a Green->Red backstab in the offing?

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I have a question. If the FDP doesn't pass 5% on the second vote, what happens to FDP candidates who win the first vote? I heard something about them qualifying for the Bundestag if 3 candidates are elected in the first vote. But, there isn't clear information anywhere.

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Everybody having won the majority offirst (personal) votes in Wahlkreis will become member of the parliament.

In parliament there are Fraktionen = groups(a party, or more than one party like CDU/CSU) which represent at least 5 % of the members of parliament.

And there are Gruppe(n) consisting of less than 5 %.

Groups and Fraktionen have more rights and opportunities in certain areas of parliament work, but not more voting rights.

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Merkel seems to be a vampire who sucks anyone dry who enters into a coalition with her. The party that deserved least to win has won. More political sclerosis but most certainly even higher taxes and more surveillance laws.

IIRC, the max MwSt within the EU is 25%, so, yeah, we can expect that regressive tax to increase.

Trittin is congratulating Merkel and being generally nice to her. Is a Green->Red backstab in the offing?

After 8 years in the wilderness? You bet, especially since the phaseout of nuclear power is already baked in.

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