Skyline Plaza is Open!

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Variety and quality on the stores looked pretty nifty. Stairs were hidden so everyone was cramming into the elevator and nearly crushed our baby stroller. Before noon it was not so unbearable, afternoon it was impossible to get up/down at all. The Durchgarten was rather nice, and looks like a lovely place to hang our, with grass area, zen garden, playgrounds for the kids, and some playgrounds for adults, with deliberately set up views visible on all sides of the skyline. Food court had a great variety, was fairly reasonably priced, but, as is typical, at the italian place at least it tasted a bit bland and like it had been under a heat lamp far too long.

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I developed a terrible migraine while I was there, so don't look for any positive aspects to this post.

It started with the stau trying to get into the parking garage, and the locals trying to use the zipper method to merge from the left-turn-lane (AKA the wrong lane) into the right lane while those who got it right waited forever to get to that point.

The mall itself really gave off an American shopping mall feel, of course opening weekend felt like the week before Christmas. I have no idea why I thought bringing my wife and 2 young kids would be a good idea.

We first visited the candy store, then the kids wanted to unload their wallets at the bookstore. I spent way too long trying to convince them that they should remember what they liked and come back if they didn't find anything else.

Then all of the sudden one of them had to pee. I was amazed (and still hope I'm wrong) to see that not only are there no toilets near the food court, there aren't any on that floor! Trying to get on and off of elevators with the locals wasn't going to happen, so I opted for the stairs. The fire-doors on the stairs only opened (easily) on one side and slammed shut on every second person (you wouldn't expect anyone to hold a door open for the next person, oder?) After overcoming the crowd on the stairs and fighting my way through the crowd at the autobahn style pay toilets, my daughter wouldn't pee because she was terrified of the motorized self-cleaning toilets.

So then, after two stores and a trip to the toilet, we left. The web-site said that parking was 5 hours for 3 Euro. We were there a little more than 2 hours and paid 5 Euro.

With all that said, I can't wait to go back! Next time on a weekday morning all by myself.

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Just had our second visit, and even less impressed with the first. I felt like I was back in a southern walmart, not one shred of courtesy.

Tip on the toilets: if you can make it TO the elevator, there's free non-motorized toilets up in the durchgarten, otherwise, yes, there's only the ones outside the first parking level, requiring coins.

I too started to comment on the stairs being hard to find being why everyone was cramming on the elevators, when I had it pointed out we'd walked past at least 3 sets of escalators to get to the elevators (had a 1 and a 4 year old with us, one on wheels, so five flights of stairs not an option, even though we'd done it in the downward direction the last time because everyone kept running past us into the elevators and I try to actually teach my kids manners.

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I work near the Skyline Plaza, so parking was free and easy. That was the last of the enjoyable experience. It's a mall and there is no major department store. So weird. I guess the food court is ok and Chipolte is there. Total win. I still think I like MTZ the best, and the MTZ is getting a qdoba like restaurant. So, I will be good.

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Frankfurt badly needed a decent shopping mall as the Zeil doesn't have a particularly good range of shops and is always rammed, regardless of the day and time you go. Unfortunately, the Skyline Plaza is an equally unpleasant place to go shopping.

It's badly designed, as other posters have pointed out, with the only toilets through a series of fire exits on the top floor. Parking is expensive, and incredibly the machine only takes small denominations of cash, wouldn't take my EC card or a €50 note. There are no safe routes for pedestrians leaving their parked cars and heading to the mall itself, and with many drivers frantically trying to find a space to park it's pretty hairy at times.

I prefer MTZ for its layout, but that has other problems which diminish the experience - namely the massive shortage of parking (it can take an hour to find a space during peak times) and the fact it is an open air mall so 2 out of every 3 people are exhaling thick blue smoke in your face and waving their cancerous glow sticks around like psychotic ravers.

For the best "mall" experience in the surrounding area, go to Loop 5 in Darmstadt. Far superior, free ample parking and so much better thought out with a wide range of stores. Skyline Plaza has a much better and more eclectic food court, however (just a shame for people like me with weak bladders that it is such a mission to get to the toilets).

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Second the "badly designed" opinions: they clearly underestimated need for elevators to the Dachgarten and for toilets (very clearly).

However, I'm quite pleased at some of the stores, in particular a Nero Giardini which I fear will not survive very long as Germans are as a rule unwilling to pay a bit more for much higher quality, and the Moroccan fast food which tastes very convincing. And the Rewe, although not huge, has some products I was beginning to despair in finding, including raw-milk French cheese. And the Dachgarten at night is very nice, actually more than in daylight.

Plus (very important plus), so far, every single shop assistant has been friendly and helpful.

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I had to run in quickly yesterday to pick up something and was amazed at how many people there were. I guess it's a combo of the Sunday shopping thing where everyone feels the need to go shop, plus the knock on effect of the IAA. I hope it calms down eventually, though, because there are some stores in there at which I would shop, but I can't stand crowded shopping.

It's miles ahead of MyZeil which I boycotted since they changed the escalators and made be run laps to get back to the ground floor from Saturn.

On the Dachgarten access, it's possible that it's intentially difficult to get up there. The more stores you have to walk by, the more likely you are to spend money. Similar concept as to why you can never find a well marked direct line out a casino. You don't spend much money on the playground.

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Hint for the MyZeil runs their escalators deliberately stupid -- I usually duck into Anson's, and use their escalators between the ground and 1. and 2. floors. Conveniently in the corner of the L layout, and they even have some good sale merchandise from time to time, so you can be a legitimate browser, and not just an escalator tourist.

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On my last visit, MyZeil had reversed their escalatior policy back to normal.

Skyline Plaza is the place to go if I feel a yen for New Jersey (conveniently located near my neighbourhood). Shops are a bit random, nothing I find indispensable or couldn't get elsewhere. But I do like the Moroccan food, a definite highlight.

The less said about the Dachgarten elevator/stair situation, the better... that was really poorly thought out.

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I haven't been to the new mall and I am really not very keen to visit it. I feel it's a shame that Frankfurt doesn't a pleasant downtown shopping area and probably never will. I personally prefer a traditional downtown or high street with plenty independent shops, interspersed with restaurants and cafés to the fake experience provided by a mall. You can't beat being outdoors, walking through streets with local character with mom and pop businesses, and bigger stores for convenience and variety. Malls are the same all over the world: they are boring, are filled with chainy and characterless shops, look like airport terminals, and to be honest, their indoorsiness (is that a word?) and artificial lighting give me nothing but cabin fever.

Rant over.

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Looks like a 1970s shopping mall ... Or am I missing something here?

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Made the mistake of going there yesterday. I work nearby and had been for brief visits over lunchtime and it was OK, but yesterday was a disaster. The lifts clearly can't cope with the number of visitors, the doors to the lift lobbies had one side locked. The only working toilets were on the 2nd floor and they cost money!! Who charges for toilets in a shopping mall in this day and age - this is perhaps their biggest sin. Certainly have no intention of shopping there as a family again.

Though on the plus side as it's all inside there's no smoking (well not that I noticed anyway) unlike Nordwestzentrum or Main-Taunus-Zentrum which are both massively let down by their smoking policies.

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We went to Skyline Plaza this last Saturday, with two teenage boys.

I have to say that the customer service was wonderful at every store we visited, especially the book store (where the young lady helped me find English books for my son and the young man at the counter was making jokes with us, all in English) and Chipotle', yum. (you can always split a dish there, though I was shocked at 3euro for a side of guacamole - it was so good)

It was easy to set a meeting place to meet back up with boys and parking was convenient (though, you pay for it). I hate shopping, but we had fun and bought some great finds.

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I Love the skyline Plaza! there is the only Chipotle in Germany (and I love chipotle!). I think it´s a nice place. Not too overrun like downtown/die Zeil. Parking is easy, too.

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HA! That is the only reason we go there... Chipotle. Though I have to admit, the guac price is outrageous. We got some good fresh juice at Frooters, too. I am not a big shopper (what a surprise, with two kids under the age of 4) but the mall is pretty pleasant, as it is mostly empty whenever we have gone. MTZ cant compete in cold weather, cause it is an outdoor mall...not so nice when it is raining or snowing.

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HA! That is the only reason we go there... Chipotle. Though I have to admit, the guac price is outrageous. We got some good fresh juice at Frooters, too. I am not a big shopper (what a surprise, with two kids under the age of 4) but the mall is pretty pleasant, as it is mostly empty whenever we have gone. MTZ cant compete in cold weather, cause it is an outdoor mall...not so nice when it is raining or snowing.

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Still quite like this place but can understand the specific complaints about it as well. Skyline is a disaster for the developer/investor for exactly the reason why I like it - the place is basically empty aside from the food court at lunch time or on weekends.

Being more a focused buyer than browsing shopper, the whole toilet thing is not an issue for me - though can understand that this would be a nightmare for families who are looking at hours in the place.

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I've heard that the developers promised the city it would be a high-end luxury mall, and would bring in traffic from the surrounding region, not just cater to Messe traffic.

Seems like none of the boutiques from the Goethestraße wanted to move, though, so once the unremarkable anchor stores moved in, the rest of the mall just became a generic local one, remarkable only because it is so unremarkable, despite the hype.

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When i´m in FFM, i visit often the Skyline Plaza. Nice Shops, and also nice Food section! I like!

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I've heard that the developers promised the city it would be a high-end luxury mall, and would bring in traffic from the surrounding region, not just cater to Messe traffic.

to me the mall seems a lot like it should have become a high end mall, but didn't made it.

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to me the mall seems a lot like it should have become a high end mall, but didn't made it.

Sounds like the Mall of Berlin. Was supposed to be high end Retail but it flattened out to average mainstream stores with two or three semi high brands.

What is it with the nonexistent food court concept in most malls??? Toilets are rare almost everywhere :-(

Is the Luxury Department Store project on Goethe Strasse coming together yet?

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