Maintaining naturally wavy or curly hair

85 posts in this topic

Posted

Hi there!

 

Any suggestions here on how to maintain healthy and shiny naturally wavy/curly hair here? I have black hair and I use the same shampoo, conditioner and leave-in moisturiser I used in NZ. Water there is so pure, soft and good it's great for drinking too. I just noticed that my hair has been looking and feeling a bit drier here and the curls aren't as nice, like it's almost always a bad hair day! I wonder if it's the water with calc here in Heidelberg or maybe just stress from my adjustment to life here - I don't know.

 

I have ran out of my leave-in moisturiser (de Lorenzo brand) which my hair really loved. I have more of them coming this Christmas from NZ but when I run out of it, I would like to buy products I can easily find here in Germany.

 

Would really love some help for my supposedly crowning glory, hehehe :)

 

Cheers!

1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

My hair was also losing its shine and somebody suggested I stop using conditioner, and instead use diluted apple cider vinegar once or twice week. It worked. It's soft and shiny again.

3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

AngelaJP,

Check out the African shops or a braid/weave specialist in your area. Better yet, befriend a I.D. card holder to get you an equivalent to your favorite brand from the PX.

-1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

ShaggyMame, it's the first time I heard of using apple cider vinegar for the hair (or is it the scalp?) but I'd definitely try this! How much water to how much vinegar? Won't our head smell bad after?

 

ukpunk1, I am an ID card holder but De Lorenzo, the brand of products that my hair loves, is an Australian brand and I can't find it anywhere here in Germany. http://www.delorenzo.com.au/online/about-us/core-values.html . Will check out those African shops. My Kenyan friend is also asking what hair products are good for the cold weather and calc-filled water in Germany. Her hair is way curlier than mine though.

 

Thank you girls! :)

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

 

ShaggyMame, it's the first time I heard of using apple cider vinegar for the hair (or is it the scalp?) but I'd definitely try this! How much water to how much vinegar? Won't our head smell bad after?

 

Vinegar for your hair??

 

I would imagine that would dry out your hair, would it not - the only time I've ever heard of using vinegar in you hair is to get rid of head lice - used it on my daughter once because nothing else worked and yes it did stink

 

Haing said that, I googled it and found loads of information e.g.:

 

http://www.ehow.com/how_4480406_rinse-hair-apple-cider-vinegar.html

 

Might try that myself sometime too...

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

I've noticed that my wavy hair always looks fried here and I don't use heat products that often. I even tried curling it once and all the curls fell out within an hour.

I try to only wash my hair 2-3 times a week and out of those times I will blow dry once or twice. In the grocery store I found a Dove super conditioner in a blue plastic jar that has been doing a nice job. I really do leave it on my hair a few minutes while I shave my legs or wash my face to give it some time to do it's job.

 

There are some nice leave in conditioner type products from PHYTO that I have used in the past and really like. I have seen these products in Frankfurt so I'm sure you can find them in Heidelberg. I think I even saw them in Douglas.

 

Keep the other suggestions coming, though, as I think we can all benefit from them. I cut my hair when I got here 6 months ago but I'm worried about letting it grow long again because it's thick and coarse and I don't want a horse to start gnawing on my head thinking it's hay... :lol:

3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

There are soft water areas in Germany, which can vary from region to region. Sometimes within the same city. And soft water does make a difference. To hair and skin.

 

Phosphate free shampoo is the way to go, but is expensive, although L'Oréal has brought one out in the US. I have thick wavy hair, live in a hard water area. and I use dog shampoo, for spaniels, or Afghans. Yes, seriously! It makes my hair really soft and manageable.

1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

I found these recipes on the Naturally Curly website:

 

To cleanse:

1/4 cup apple cider vinegar + 1 cup water (I use organic vinegar and filtered water).

 

For deep-treatment:

1 ripe Avocado + 10 drops Extra virgin olive oil + 3 tea spoons honey

 

The cleansing worked really well for me, it cleaned out all my scalp nicely and it didn't smell. The deep treatment I'm not sure because the avocado I used wasn't ripe enough...

 

EDIT: Or of course, you can order products for curly hair through this website:

http://www.britishcurlies.co.uk/store/

 

That's what I'm going to do this weekend!

2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

Great tips everyone. My daughter has crazy curls that's looked drier since we moved to Heidelberg. For her we have to use conditioner either Motions or Nexxus. Motions is geared more towards black hair, but Nexxus is for all hair types. Then we use Mizzani coconut souffle. It makes her hair shiny and smell nice without it looking or feeling greasy. Since you're an ID holder, you can find this at the PX or commissary. I've tried adding a little oil to my sons' hair, they also have curly hair, and they end up looking like sleazy midget car salesman, so I use the souffle for them, too. Will definitely try the water and vinegar, though. For myself as well.

4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

omg please don't put anything in your hair to dry it out, it will just get worse. curly hair needs moisture!!

 

I also (strongly) recommend having a read of naturallycurly.com

They have good tips for home remedies, and then some product ideas (most of which I've managed to find through online stores).

 

I've also noticed my curly hair takes a few months to settle into a new environment, so maybe after a while of washing your hair in Heidelberg water it will just adjust itself..?

 

And now for my own little shout out...Does anyone know of any hairdressers in Frankfurt or Berlin who are good (and I mean actually properly good) at cutting curly hair?? I've been researching on TT and the www, but what I'm really looking for is someone who can say they have curly hair and had a great haircut. Yeah, its probably a long shot...

2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

AngelaJP, never move to Munich, the water is far more brutal to hair than in Heidelberg, it eats colour. :(

1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

Unfortunately, about 96% of black/curly hair care products available on the market contain hair stripping ingredients, such as sulfates, alcohols, glycols, and silicones. The best conditioning products on the market for African American and Curly Textured Hair are made by Beauty 4 Ashes ®, Carol's Daughter, Aubrey Organics, and Ojon. Aubrey Organics, all natural products are available for sale in Germany. You might want to

check out Aubrey Organics.de. Especially Haarpflege-Duo Honeysuckle Shampoo&Conditioner. Ojon hair products can be found here QVC.de. All the best

3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

AngelaJP,

 

I have a wave in my hair and I also have highlights and a colour, so finding the right products was a must. I tried loads of different stuff both expensive and cheap. On the expensive side I like Redken, but find it builds up in my hair so I dont use it all that often. I love the Loreal stuff in the red packaging. The mask is amazing and if my hair is really dry I use the leave in conditioner spray. I havent found better and theyre not expensive, so are well worth a try. oh and GHD products if you do decide to straighten or curl at the weekend

1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

I should add the suggestions I made above, from a company called Phyto, are also natural and plant based.. from France. I'm sure the Dove stuff I use is full of phosphates so when I'm down in Frankfurt later this week I'll pick up some more Phyto.

 

Can Carol's Daughter products be found in Germany?

1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

Lush carries a product called R & B which is amazing as a leave-in conditioner slash curl enhancing product. AFAIK it contains no alcohol and makes your hair shiny and smells a-m-a-z-i-n-g. (Not cheap, though.) It's good if your hair is on the "whiter" side (like mine), not sure how it will work on kinkier curls. My Afro quotient is about 2 on a scale of 1-10, which is a rating I just made up to indicate that if my hair is longer than a couple of inches it cannot do anything resembling an Afro. But it's big and poofy without product so like most of you out there, my entire life has been a struggle to find and adjust to new products and types of water.

 

My mom used to use vinegar on my hair when I was a little girl, but then again she only washed it about once a week so maybe it made more of a difference then but I will be sure to give it a try sometime soon and see if it does anything to remove the buildup.

 

On a side note, I find Pantene Pro-V Repair and Care to be the best supermarket brand for my hair, always leaves it soft, manageable and shiny, just like in the commercials :D

1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

 

Can Carol's Daughter products be found in Germany?

 

Even that British website I mentioned in my previous post doesn't carry Carol's daughter. Amazon.de carries some curl products, but they don't have Curl Junkie, Darcy's Organics, Jessicurl, etc. either.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

Well I wish I had something to add but I really don't. I use the L'oreal PRoV Pantene hair repair after I finish washing and conditioning. I let mine air dry and then apply a "curling lotion" and scrunch with my fingers. I was thinking it was the grey hair taking over making my hair not as nice as before. But Id much prefer to blame the water here! :) I'll just have to stay away from the neighbors horses

1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

great thread! yeah!

 

 

... I stop using conditioner, and instead use diluted apple cider vinegar once or twice week. It worked. It's soft and shiny again.

 

do you have black or super curly or kinky hair? i have to condition(finger comb through my hair every day though otherwise my hair will get really tangled. at the moment i am using some drugstore conditioner - probably a bad idea, but i need something every day.

 

 

... Better yet, befriend a I.D. card holder to get you an equivalent to your favorite brand from the PX.

 

boo. bad advice! i might sometiems ask my pals to bring me ziploc bags though.

 

 

I try to only wash my hair 2-3 times a week and out of those times I will blow dry once or twice...

 

i wash my hair once a week, unless in summer when i go swimming, etc. never blow dry.

 

 

...Phosphate free shampoo is the way to go, but is expensive, although L'Oréal has brought one out in the US...

 

i'm not sure if it is phosphate free, but my ghanese hair dresser got my started on l'oreal products, so i use that shampoo. costs 20€ for a big huge bottle, but since i only wash my hair once a wk it last a long time.

 

 

Great tips everyone. My daughter has crazy curls that's looked drier since we moved to Heidelberg. For her we have to use conditioner either Motions or Nexxus. Motions is geared more towards black hair...

 

Motions? oh the horror! that stuff is so greasy. i had some black hairdressers who swore by that stuff. i hated it. it just smelled funny. ugh. but maybe my hair wasn't kinky enough. not sure on dessa's scale my locks would be.

 

 

... The best conditioning products on the market for African American and Curly Textured Hair are made by Beauty 4 Ashes ®, Carol's Daughter, Aubrey Organics, and Ojon. Aubrey Organics, all natural products are available for sale in Germany. You might want to

check out Aubrey Organics.de. Especially Haarpflege-Duo Honeysuckle Shampoo&Conditioner. Ojon hair products can be found here QVC.de. All the best

 

thanks for that tip, will try them out!

 

 

... oh and GHD products if you do decide to straighten or curl at the weekend

 

my hairdresser always wants to blow dry and flat-iron my hair straight so on monday i said ok. the GHD flat iron is fantastic, but woah, at 200€ - no thanks. besides, the moment i stepped out of the salon and a huge wind came, my farrah fawcett style was gone. she loves the 80s styles, but she knows my hair and i am happy with her and she knows i am up for anything except cutting my hair, so we do color, highlights, etc.

 

i used to relax my hair, but alas, too much work to keep it up and too expensive (even my ghanese hair dresser charged 125€) , so 2005 i let it grow it out/chopped it off. i have thick and curly hair (my dad is mixed, mom latina) so i get a mushroom do if i do nothing with it - i want length so i use nivea cream gel to add weight. i know, probably a bad idea, but i need something in my hair. it is so dry, utterly dry, desert dry. but i have regular, tiny ringlets. just wish they would grow!

 

because my mom has wavy hair, she really wasn't good at teaching me how to take care of my hair (she kept it short, or put it in those silly buns on top of my head). when i was in high school it was short and straight as best i could. so of course i still am clueless. i have no diversity in my hair style. on special occasions, etc. i would love to do something different *sniff sniff*.

3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

My daughter has the frizziest hair known to man. She uses the Kerastase Oleo curl products in the orange bottles. It's not cheap but it works very well. They have a cream to smooth through the hair or an oil for super frizzies. It's not so oily it makes it look greasy but one pump from the bottle will tame a head of hair shoulder length. It's not cheap but is the best product for curly hair. One bottle costs about 28 Euro but lasts about 3 months.

1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now