Barbeque on the balcony

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Howdy folks, quick (possible legal) query...

so here's the good weather finally and what's the first thing you do? Barbeque! Saturday evening just after I lit the barbeque on the balcony (2nd floor of a 3 floor building), I hear a voice from above (tenant above that is, no religious/easter jokes here!) saying that you're only allowed to use an electric barbeque on a balcony because the smoke travels up and goes in the windows of the person above you?!?!

Is this right? I mean it only smokes for about ten minutes untill it heats up, maybe she was just hungry. ;)

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That is correct. You may only use a gas or electric BBQ on your balcony, not coals. Them be the rulez.

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do you have a hof behind your apartment? If so, use it for charcol grilling. I was at DDBug's last night and we grilled in the hof with lots of friends, and do that often and get no complaints. My building has a roof terrace, and I have Electric grilled up there.

Good luck in finding a 'grill safe' location.

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The law was actually recently changed for inner-city Munich. You used to be allowed to bbq on your balcony using charcoal, but not longer.

I still do it though :)

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That said, I don't think the neighbors were too pleased about our little easter sunday BBQ. Though more so because of the noise I think.

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what about if there is no one above you (ie you live on the top floor) can you still charcoal bbq then?

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I think the neighbour upstairs will have to mysteriously disappear, the day before I serve some tasty barbeque, whistlestop cafe style! :lol:

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Hm, any way I can get my neighbors to stop smoking on their balcony, then? ;)

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So back in the States I would grill more than cooking on the stove or in the oven. Where can I get a gas grill around here and where/how easy is it to refile the tanks. Haven't seen any of the "drop off" places like in the States.

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We bought our grill in the States - however, we did see some grills at OBI and at Praktiker. We did buy our gas tank here at OBI. But, you will have to do a little conversion to make the American grill fit the German tank. Works great.

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Hi all, I was just thinking about buying a little BBQ and setting it up on my balcony...but the question I have is whether or not it is allowed...Is there any bi-law prohibiting the use of BBQ's on balcony's or does it depend on the owner of the building or the apartment??? As always, all your advice is apprecaited.

Cheers,

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thanks...i think that solves the problem...now i just gotta get a BBQ.

Cheers

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The Mieterverein just had an article on this in their magazine, and grilling is a no-no on the balcony. Even a gas grill may produce enough smoke to bother your neighbors and if they call the cops, you are in the wrong. There is a Generalverbot of grilling on any balcony in an apartment building.

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I wonder what about grilling in the hof behind our house? Haven't read my Mietverein magazine yet, anything in there about that?

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Translated from the article:

In a apartment block / house where there are several families it is permissable to grill once a month on the Ballcony, when the other occupants are informed a minimum of 48 hours in advance. (Amtsgericht Bonn, 6 C 545/96)

There may be a grill ban written in the rules of the house however. (Landgericht Essen, 10 S 438/01)

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Once a month with 48 hours written notice? If you tried that in Canada they would call the cops (I mean notifying your neighbours evry time you wanted to grill :) ).

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The court ruling is about establishing case law, not a statute.

So if it was once a month on 48 hours notice you can instantly say f*** off to the neighbours but that isn't a minimum requirement.

It's the same with parties. You have the right to have a party twice a year i think plus birthdays. that doesn't mean 3 times plus birthdays is gonna get you nicked.

But charcoal: NO!

There's also the fire risk to consider. :ph34r:

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Best bet is to use electric..FULLSTOP!

Cops will fine you with no sympathy... I can understand that!

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Nach Ansicht des Amtsgerichts Essen spielt es auch keine Rolle, ob mit Holzkohlegrill oder Elektrogrill auf dem Balkon eines Mehrfamilienhauses gegrillt wird.

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The last time we had a BBQ on our balcony, we waited until our neighbours went to bed... no probs then (however, not good for the waistline :)

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I would like to know the laws concerning grilling in the Innenhof of my apartment. A few neighbors and I would like to have a grill party, but they mentioned that they tried this a few yeras ago and an old women in an apartment above poured water out her balcoy on to the grill. We have a large innenhof and I would like to move the grill more to the center, is this allowed...I will speak with my hausverwaltung about this first, but I would like to know the laws as what was posted before only pertains to balconies.

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There's no simple answer for this one, I'm afraid. It depends on the court. Some say you can, some say you can't. What does your Mietvertrag say? Anyway, if you've already got a neighbor lady like that, I'd expect trouble.

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