The company I work for now has a Betriebrät and as usual, when these things come into existance, my boss and the Betriebrät are trying to show who top dog is. I have put in for holiday and my boss has told me that it will take a while to authorise. Upon asking why I was told that holiday has to be genemigt by the Betriebrät, however they are on a Fortbildung until the end of next week. I know that refused holiday can be taken on by the BR, but the authorisation of it too??? Is he just trying to play the employees against the BR??
Now I have to say, video's that start with a whooping and clapping American audience as a rule are turned off without hesitation, but as you took the time to find it, link it and post it, I took the time to watch it. Very informative, thank you. I will have my lad watch it....and he won't be grounded for a month, I am thinking maybe going out for an ice-cream after....
Legal insurance, we are covered for anything (even a tsunami and level 9 earth quake, my wife is her mothers daughter!!).
As I said, the bully is a child from a difficult home life. His father is residing in a one room B&B that has a fitted stainless steel toilet in the corner all expenses paid. He is a general bully, but my son seems to be his main target at the moment. The school seem to think that as long as sorry is said each time, everything is hunky dory. I cannot accept that and neither do I see why a bullied child should have to say sorry. If the school was on the ball then he would not need to run away. If he tells a teacher, and the bully is then slapped on the wrist, it is only a matter of time before my lad, "the grass" gets an extra beating. The school are ignoring the problem in the hope it will go away.
We have tried that one. Unfortunately the bully is a good head above my son. I have told him he is going to get hurt no matter what happens, so give him a good swing. It is not in his nature to be nasty to anyone. I will be having another "chat" with the school this afternoon. Not very optimistic...
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Does anyone have any experience or advice about bullying in German schools. My oldest is at Grundschule in the second year. Pretty much a couple of times a week he is bullied by another child. Often it results in my child in tears. The school seem to think that as long as the bully says sorry, there is no problem. The sorry as far as I am concerned this is now worthless and is just a quick word to get so that the bully gets himself as fast as possible back out in the playground. The bully, typically is a child with "a difficult home life" as I have been told several times and well known to all relevant parties. I have now lost my sense of humour. Yesterday my son took it upon himself to leave school and go to his grandparents who live just down the road. The reaction from the school, a phone call to me about my son's behaviour!!! So back to the original question, does anyone have any experience or ideas please. I am getting to the point of being German and going to school with a lawyer in tow, maybe under Article 5 of the Human Rights Act, Recht auf Freiheit und Sicherheit, but in all honesty, I have no idea. Especially tragic as my wife is a teacher and has to deal with this in her own school. She knows herself just how powerless parents of bullied children are.
Thank you for all the replies, very informative and helpful.
As to the remarks on overtime ban by most betriebsrat, the irony here is, and I would rather not say who I work for, but if overtime was required and not authorised, the first people to complain would be those posting comment here
HellesAngel, many , many thanks for your answers. You have shed light onto an area that my German friends could not answer and where my co-workers had no idea. It may sound strange that a company with 8000 employees has no Betriebsrat, but in honesty, we have never needed one. I work for a very open company. The people who are now making waves are people who have worked for other companies who have had one and cannot get it into their collective heads that we are happy without. Looks like things are going to change. Sadly, for the worst as they want to model themselves on the Betriebsrat of the joining company and that is an organisation who's ethos is big money small work. Oh well, it was nice whist it lasted. Again many thanks.
I have previously worked for German companies that have had a Betriebsrat. My present company does not have one, although we have 8000 employees! On the whole it is a happy situation. We are now coming together with another company that does have said Betriebsrat. With the joining of the two companies, the Betriebsrat will remain in place for those covered by the joining companies contracts, the rest of us stay as a we are. We do have a few people though who want and of course can have a regional Betriebsrat's. I work in an off site arm of the company. We are 20 or so employees and around 5 or 6 employees want a Betriebsrat and under the rules they can. However can anyone answer the following questions.
1. If you disagrees and do not want to be part of the Betriebsrat can you opt out?
2. Will those who do not want to be part of it (around half are set against it) and by extension did not vote for it be subject to any decisions made by it?
3. Although I have read this http://bundesrecht.juris.de/betrvg/index.html, I can find no reference to the above questions.